Mark Morris – Chastening G3809 G3811 H3198 H1431 G397 G837

Mark Morris – Chastening G3809 G3811 H3198 H1431 G397 G837

Heb 12 v 1 – 11

Jesus was glorified by this, we are to endure for the same.

Required to be exercised thereby or we are not sons.

The example with Jesus is extreme here.

What is chastening?

Perhaps we think there is physical suffering. Sometimes so as with Jesus, but not necessarily the case.

Rev 3

14. And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15. I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eye salve, that thou mayest see.

19. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

similar to Heb 12 and the quotation from Prov

The father is working with those that he loves – those he chastens.

Jesus is doing this work.

Luke 23 links with what is being spoken about in Heb 12

Jesus before Pilate.

Luke 23

14. Said unto them, Ye have brought this man unto me, as one that perverteth the people: and, behold, I, having examined him before you, have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye accuse him:

15. No, nor yet Herod: for I sent you to him; and, lo, nothing worthy of death is done unto him.

16. I will therefore chastise him, and release him.

He has found no fault, but Pilate thinks to chastise him! – it is to bring forth fruits of righteousness, but clearly there is no need for that for Christ.

Bear this in mind.

Here it seems to be physical suffering.

Acts 7

Not physical here.

Read about Moses.

21. And when he was cast out, Pharaoh’s daughter took him up, and nourished him for her own son.

22. And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds.

This is the same word here. Perhaps it seems surprising. This shows that there is some sense of learning whilst being chastised.

Acts 22

1. Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.

2. (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)

3. I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

Paul speaks about being brought up and being taught according to the perfect manner of the law. Similar to Moses.

Prov 3

9. Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:

10. So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.

11. My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction:

12. For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

13. Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

14. For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

15. She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.

18. She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

Context is the high value of wisdom. It is better than all these things.

Ultimately she is a tree of life.

Connects with Moses and Paul as they were learned in the law etc.

Gen 20

1. And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled between Kadesh and Shur, and sojourned in Gerar.

2. And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, She is my sister: and Abimelech king of Gerar sent, and took Sarah.

To have the godly seed she needs to be with Abraham. God then prevents Abimelech from coming near her.

Abraham was scared in v11 which is why he did what he did.

The outcome is that Abimelech is that he gives Sarah back plus goods etc.

15. And Abimelech said, Behold, my land is before thee: dwell where it pleaseth thee.

16. And unto Sarah he said, Behold, I have given thy brother a thousand pieces of silver: behold, he is to thee a covering of the eyes, unto all that are with thee, and with all other: thus she was reproved.

Reproved is the corrected word from Proverbs

This first example in scripture is not about physical punishment, but about learning what you did wrong and being corrected.

Gen 21

25. And Abraham reproved Abimelech because of a well of water, which Abimelech’s servants had violently taken away.

26. And Abimelech said, I wot not who hath done this thing: neither didst thou tell me, neither yet heard I of it, but to day.

Abimelech on found out about this at that point. He wanted a covenant.

Gen 24

13. Behold, I stand here by the well of water; and the daughters of the men of the city come out to draw water:

14. And let it come to pass, that the damsel to whom I shall say, Let down thy pitcher,I pray thee, that I may drink; and she shall say, Drink, and I will give thy camels drink also: let the same be she that thou hast appointed for thy servant Isaac; and thereby shall I know that thou hast shewed kindness unto my master.

Lev 19

17. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Linking in with love that we show to one another.

Chastening can be something being explained about what you have done wrong, it is about understanding and learning with regard to wisedom.

Simon Foster added

Gen 20

Noticing that also Abimelech was chastened.

v 1 – 7

Then link to Ps 105

12. When they were but a few men in number; yea, very few, and strangers in it.

13. When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people;

14. He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes;

15. Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

This links in to what happened with Abimelech.

Clearly about instruction.

He had been mislead, had integrity of heart. The correction was about his misunderstanding.

Mat Foster added

Stephen speaks about learning, look back at Ex 2 we see it speaking of Moses “growing”

Exodus 2:10

Others do this growing including Isaac

Samuel

1 Samuel 2:21

1 Samuel 3:19

Jesus

Luke 2:40

How can we be like this?

1 Peter 2:2

Exhortation of what we should do

2 Peter 3:18

God brings forth fruits of righteousness in us

2 Corinthians 9:10

This word is linked with the growth of seed and plants bringing forth fruit – This is the image we have about ourselves.

Simon Foster added

Linking nourished and learned together, happens with Paul also!

Acts 7

20. In which time Moses was born, and was exceeding fair, and nourished up in his father’s house three months:

21. And when he was cast out, Pharaoh’s daughter took him up, and nourished him for her own son.

22. And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds.

Acts 22

3. I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

Brought up being the same word.

Andrew Harrison added

2 Tim 3

16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

God’s word is suitable for reproving.

Mat – after thought

2 Tim 2 v 25 – instruction or rebuking is something that a servant of God does to another, giving the situation that they find themselves in before this rebuking is done. It has to be done in meekness.

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